Author Topic: What\'s with the GAS PRICES? (Read 8144 times)

dynaweb · « **on:** August 08, 2005, 03:57:35 PM »

They are 2.55 a gallon here in OR!

zelo · « **Reply #1 on:** August 08, 2005, 06:07:35 PM »

Not much better in FL... about $2.30 a gallon (if you can find it CHEAP) and in OR you all don\'t even have to pump your own gas. I\'ll pay the little extra for that!

dynaweb · « **Reply #2 on:** August 11, 2005, 09:51:49 PM »

Hey, dont mistake not being allowed to pump your own gas with "Full Service". I mean yeh, you dont have to get out of your car, but when you are in a rush it is uneasy to be at the mercy of the station. Rarely too do you ever get a windshield wash either.

Anyhow, we took the weekend and went up to Seattle and found gas there for $2.76 a gallon, self-serv too. Sheesh man WTF. Dont make me have to buy a hybrid!

zelo · « **Reply #3 on:** August 11, 2005, 10:58:37 PM »

Gas prices here (Orlando) have gone up three straight days to $2.49/gallon. I think that is a crying shame and a large drag on our economy.

A couple of places to find some help are these two sites
Gas Buddy -- http://www.gasbuddy.com/
MSN -- http://autos.msn.com/everyday/gasstations.aspx?zip=&src=LeftNav

I hate to admit it but I actually like MSN better than I do Gas Buddy as it has more updated data (and it updates more often) than does Gas Buddy.

Let me know if you all find these sites helpful.

dynaweb · « **Reply #4 on:** August 12, 2005, 02:05:41 PM »

They both look like pretty cool sites. Up to 2.76 here in sunriver. Im going to have to trade my van in for a motorcycle.

adb22791 · « **Reply #5 on:** August 12, 2005, 02:28:01 PM »

I wish I could afford a Diesel truck... Diesel costs more, but you can get around 20 mpg instead of 11 mpg.

zelo · « **Reply #6 on:** August 12, 2005, 05:20:37 PM »

Diesel in some places here is actually LESS money than gasoline. Conspiracy?

zelo · « **Reply #7 on:** August 12, 2005, 05:22:03 PM »

The best reason to give to a wife of anything is to give a practical reason why... and saving MONEY... hey what\'s more practical than that?

ctwjr · « **Reply #8 on:** August 14, 2005, 09:55:12 AM »

I hope this will help somebody.Here is a web site to check on lowest gas prices:
gasbuddy.com >>CTW

adb22791 · « **Reply #9 on:** August 14, 2005, 10:19:50 AM »

Wow thats pretty cool.
http://www.marylandgasprices.com/
Look at the number 1 Gas Station with the highest price. I\'ve been there before , but it wasn\'t 2.91 when I was there.

dynaweb · « **Reply #10 on:** August 18, 2005, 08:04:40 PM »

$2.79 a gallon now! - I guess I shouldn\'t have said anything

zelo · « **Reply #11 on:** August 18, 2005, 08:08:46 PM »

National Average price is $2.59 a gallon... ALMOST makes you want to be in Iraq (the country with the lowest gas prices in the world at 5¢/gallon). But then there is no one in Iraq that can afford the nickel and I am sure our US troops are paying at least $5/gallon for that nickel gas...

Nickel beer night... why not nickel gas night!!!

zelo · « **Reply #12 on:** August 18, 2005, 08:12:05 PM »

"Wal-Mart struggled in the second quarter and muted its earnings outlook on Tuesday, again blaming higher gasoline prices for cutting into spending plans by its low-income shoppers."

So fuel is preventing Wal-Mart from fueling profits... what an oximoron.

dynaweb · « **Reply #13 on:** August 18, 2005, 10:07:51 PM »

Yeh I know what you are thinking already, it is not REALLY a "crisis" because look at what other countries pay per liter of gas. But so what, I want ours back to $1.25 a gallon where I like it!

OK, so here is my solution. It is much better than our current "solution" which is shipping oil from the Middle East (which costs a great amount of gas in itself) across one of the most vast expanses of water possible on Earth, then refine it in TX which is at sea level, then truck the fuel to all the civilized regions of the US (which costs gas) which are either very far away and/or at a much higher elevation (which further costs gas). It is a textbook "upward spiral" of cost and waste.

INSTEAD, open up oil reserves in the north. No NOT Alaska, but MN, MT Dakotas, Southern Canada, etc. Put the refineries RIGHT THERE where the reserves are. Also run a pipeline down the Mississippi (wow that\'s just fun to type

) basin so there is a natural draw as it goes down in elevation. Then there is oil, both refined and unrefined, in the northern US and piped to the southern US where there are already refineries. This could open up thousands of jobs, clean up the environment, generate billions in tax revenue, eliminate reliance OPEC, and open up an export economy which our country so despirately needs these days. This new system could be the envy of the world given our resources and technological capabilities.

If only I WERE IN CHARGE !!! :rolleyes:

zelo · « **Reply #14 on:** August 19, 2005, 06:15:54 AM »

The problem is that the reserves say they are running at almost 100% capacity because of the countries like China and Malysia and other third world countries that are now coming into their own. I say charge THEM if we are the ones that do the refining and leave the low gas prices for us.

Yes, you are correct, gas in places like England is about $3/L (appx. $6.25 Gallon or so) but think of how small both their cars and their COUNTRY are. Even gas in Canada is expensive compared to ours (the last I heard was $1.75/L) but again, the country, by far, that does the most travel is the United States and we have a right to lower gas prices.

I have do disagree with you about digging for oil in Alaska. Alaska holds ONE OF THE LARGEST oil reserves IN THE WORLD and the Alaska pipeline is already in place. Environmentalists say that there is POTENTIAL for ruining the nature that is Alaska but I would like to make two points on that subject.
1. It is off-shore drilling which means no land would be affected by the drilling since the drilling is done underwater.
2. There is over a 99% certainty that there will be no problems of spillage or other environmental disasters. Those are odds that NEED to be taken if for nothing else for America to become independant of those who control the world\'s oil (Middle East).

There is yet another solution and that is ethanol. Ethanol is in layman\'s terms grain alchahol. Pure alchahol (160 proof for those who drink) and extremely flammable. Ethanol works like diesel but MUCH cleaner, it is a renewable resource (since it comes from corn [of which our farmers are paid by the US government to NOT sell]), it can also be used as an anti-freeze.

"Ethanol can be derived from corn, wheat, potato wastes, cheese whey, rice straw, sawdust, urban wastes, paper mill wastes, yard clippings, molasses, sugar cane, seaweed, surplus food crops, and other cellulose waste." Source: Wikipedia

Why don\'t we use that? It is NOT science fiction to put our table scraps in our car and run off them (of course after being refined). Two reasons. Number one is the fact that auto makers have just not made available cars that run off this type of fuel and number two government beurocracy.

The use of ethanol and methanol came into prominence during the Arab oil embargo of 1973 when Brazil and the United States looked hard into using these renewable forms (E10 [10% Ethanol, 90% Gasoline & E85 [85% Ethanol, 15% Gasoline]) of fuel. Than magically there is oil again (the embargo was over) and the only state that I know of that requires the use of E10 is (no NOT California) Minnesota.

We all need to get up off our lazy asses (actually we don\'t even need to get up!) and write to our senators. To find the senator in your state to to the U.S. Senate web site and demand that there be change!

If we are paying $3/gallon today and that was cut by 90% (E85) and the Ethanol was a quarter as much as the gasoline then prices of "gasahol" would be $1.05/gallon.

I\'m not saying that I know everything, I know very little... but we are all smart enough to come up with a solution to a problem that already has a solution.